Miss Behaving

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  Are you people the Watchtower?

  by Richard C B in

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  are you people 'the watchtower'?.

  no - we're an independent community site offering support for both current and former jehovah's witnesses and anyone else who has been affected by the beliefs, doctrines and practices of the jehovah's witness religion as governed by the watch tower bible and tract society (wtb&ts).. we are not affiliated with the wtb&ts in any way and we take your privacy and security very seriously doing our utmost to protect your identity and provide a friendly, tolerant and informative environment where you can ask questions, share information and make new friends.

  membership is completely free and anonymous so why not join toda.

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  Miss Behaving

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  I would rather be in the JW cult than the ex-jw cult

  by questioningmyfaith in

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  i have posted one other time on this website.

  just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.

  some did give me some help on my questions.

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  Miss Behaving

  It's shocking when you find out that your entire mental/spiritual world is fabricated. When you discover that the friends and family whose opinions you've respected for years, are actually the victims of a mind control cult. After something like that it's understandable to become a little paranoid, and see 'cult' in everything. Not much of a stretch, especially when we've been taught that everyone outside the org is Satan controlled.

  When I was leaving, I caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror, one of those glimpses where you see what you actually are. I saw someone so arrogant, so self-righteous, so ready to judge and condemn everyone else. I didn't like it, but I looked around and saw that this belief system makes people become that.

  Reading your post, it reminds me of what I saw in myself. There is no one right and proper way to be. There's more than one right answer. There aren't 'evil-doers' here, just some angry hurting people, people angry because they are hurting.

  Anyways, that's my 2 cents.
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  Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow this is interesting!

  i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.

  they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.

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  Miss Behaving

  That last public discourse is such mind twisting double-speak. 'When will loyal love triumph over hatred?' Hmm, I don't know Watchtower, maybe when you stop spending three days of everyone's time teaching folks to hate themselves, to be paranoid about everyone who isn't a perfect witness, to preach that God will viciously murder their neighbors. Ministry of love, indeed.
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  Within 2 years I see... KH Karaoke...Seriously

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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  this evening at the clam the job video was played and then the stupid peer pressure video.

  this was not so odd.

  however on the last elijah section pictures from the imitate their faith book was place on screen to imagine the scenes.

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  Miss Behaving

  I'm embarrassed to say that I memorized the first 50 new kingdom maladies before I woke up. I didn't just drink the cool-aide, I bathed and swam in it and spit it out like a fountain.

  But hey! On the upside, my capacity to memorize lots of useless information is the tops :)
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  Talking to a wall

  by ivanatahan in

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  why must these people be figurative walls when talking about the lies of the jw cult?.

  the other day, i had a conversation with my mother.

  we started talking about the election and how the candidates differ (me being a supporter of bernie).

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  Miss Behaving

  At least you know that you really tried. You approached her like a reasonable human being, gave her a chance to give a logical argument. All she could do was toss back the party lines.

  It bites to lose the people we love. Even if we don't get DF'd, there's a mental/emotional connection we never get back. I don't blame my folks anymore. I see them as victims of a virulent and manipulative ideology. If I were ever in proximity to the GB though... well... it would be hard to stay civil
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  having a dark night of the soul

  by Miss Behaving in

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  2. friends

  i'm writing this here because i need someone to talk to, and you're the only folks i know who will understand.

  most of the time i think i'm a pretty happy and together person, but lately, i'll see something that reminds me of my family and i'll spontaneously start crying.

  i miss them so much and my heart keeps breaking, and even though i have kind people i work and volunteer with, i feel so incredibly lonely sometimes.

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  Miss Behaving

  Thank you so much for everyone's kind words. Sorry it took me a little while to respond. I had been feeling incredibly down lately, and I really appreciate all the thoughtful responses and ideas.

  Maybe this is magical thinking, but I believe all of the goodwill and well wishes from here really did something. After I posted, I went for a walk, I stopped to get some coffee and strangely I found a person to talk to. I met a man who had been through the foster care system. We talked about how hard it can be to make it without a family. I realized that as tough as things are, I'm pretty damn lucky; to be alive, to be healthy, to not have addictions.

  When we're Witnesses, they teach us that it's wrong to have dreams, that it's wrong to want something for yourself. When I left, I didn't have any hopes or dream or hobbies, I just had a strong will to survive and be free. Well, I've sort of got those things but it's not really enough.

  So here's my first real dream: Someday I'm going to create a charity that helps people who've lost their social support; whether it's because they've left a cult, or left an abusive family, or found themselves starting over late in life. It will help connect them with the resources they need as well as psychological support. I have no idea how I'm going to do it, but I've begun reading about 501c3's and I'm declaring my major as business next semester.

  Maybe this is a sign that even though I've left the cult, I haven't left the programming of needing to save the world. But, I don't really care, it's what I'd like to do, and I may as well put all this trauma to good use.

  Thanks for caring about me, and caring about my existence. I'm doing better, the world is looking a little less dark today.

  I'm going to go find something funny to watch, and laugh a little. I hope you have peace wherever you are.

  Love, Miss B
  
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  having a dark night of the soul

  by Miss Behaving in

  1. jw
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  i'm writing this here because i need someone to talk to, and you're the only folks i know who will understand.

  most of the time i think i'm a pretty happy and together person, but lately, i'll see something that reminds me of my family and i'll spontaneously start crying.

  i miss them so much and my heart keeps breaking, and even though i have kind people i work and volunteer with, i feel so incredibly lonely sometimes.

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  Miss Behaving

  Hi again,
  

  I'm writing this here because I need someone to talk to, and you're the only folks I know who will understand. Most of the time I think I'm a pretty happy and together person, but lately, I'll see something that reminds me of my family and I'll spontaneously start crying. I miss them so much and my heart keeps breaking, and even though I have kind people I work and volunteer with, I feel so incredibly lonely sometimes.
  

  The last few days, I've felt a strong desire to go back. Except that deep down, I know I can't. I can't un-know what I know, I can't lie to myself or to them. But sometimes it's so tempting to. I long to call them just to hear their voices again, even if it's them being angry or guilt-inducing with me.

  My days have been merging together into long stretches of work and sleep. Sometimes I wonder what the point of fighting so hard is, what the point to existence is. Last month, I injured myself and at the hospital, there was no one close enough to me to be concerned. It sort of drove the point home for me that my existence has so little impact that if I disappeared tomorrow, no one would miss me. No one would be sad.

  I'm sorry to be so depressing,I know everyone on here has their own sorrows.
  

  I guess I'm hoping you'll share with me what meaning and joy you've found in your lives since you've left. I could use some hope.

  with love, Miss B
  
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  If the Watchtower truly collapsed, how would you deal with your JW relatives?

  by nicolaou in

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  2. friends

  imagine the best case scenario.

  the watchtower society implodes from within even making final printed admissions that it is voluntarily dismantling it's mission and legally dissolving the corporations.

  oh happy day!

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  Miss Behaving

  I'd welcome them. Even though they weren't the nicest of folks when I left, I would love to have a family again.
  
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  Today my son told me that he can't stand this religion

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have talked to him ttat.

  and he understands.

  he doesn't wanna be a jw.

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  Miss Behaving

  I am very moved by your story. You're fighting so hard for your family, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. I wish you the best of luck with helping them escape.

  I hardly feel qualified to give any advice, but is there anything non-cultish your wife loves? Singing, painting, films, walks, animals? I think my love of books helped me develop a personality away from the cult. Again, good luck!
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  Why I remain one of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Brother Jeramy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.

  i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.

  some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).

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  Miss Behaving

  Hello

  There's a study which took groups of Republicans and Democrats and rearranged them so that each group was made up of a ratio of 9:1. One person of the opposing party would be in each group. They wanted to see if that 1 would give into the social pressure of being out numbered. What they actually found was that the person who had to defend their beliefs alone tested more extreme in their beliefs afterwards and had a much more negative view of the opposing party then they began with.

  I think you've experienced something akin to this effect on this board, where the opposing view easily outnumbers you 100:1.

  It's a shame, because there were many kind and compassionate posts on this thread directed towards you, not any of mine, but the ones above your previous post.

  Personally, I misunderstood you, I thought your motivation for posting on an apostate site was to be challenged, to see if your ideals could stand up to a beating. So, I didn't hold back. My motives weren't hatred of you by any means. More for the fun and mental game of it.

  I'm going to move along to a more productive pursuit now. Wishing you well anyways.